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	<title>Comments on: Do Mothers Care to Crucify their Careers?</title>
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	<description>work + life + family = interconnectivity</description>
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		<title>By: Canbadian Public Servant</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-233</link>
		<dc:creator>Canbadian Public Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:25:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry for the typo. Aztec- Rose you may want to change my  pseudonym from &quot;&#039;Canbadian&#039; Public Servant&quot; to &quot;Canadian Public Servant.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry for the typo. Aztec- Rose you may want to change my  pseudonym from &#8220;&#8216;Canbadian&#8217; Public Servant&#8221; to &#8220;Canadian Public Servant.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Canbadian Public Servant</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Canbadian Public Servant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 May 2010 14:18:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It does not say much for the Australian Public Service. I am a Federal public servant in Canada and, here the usual chronology is that the woman takes her maternal leave and then the man (if both are in the Public service) does his share. Thus the child gets the advantage of having time with both parents. It generally does not have an affect on either parents career besides the obvious delay caused by the time away, but that is strictly a logistical issue. If promotions are usually at the three year point for your work designation and you take 7 months maternal you end up getting promoted at 3y and 7m.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It does not say much for the Australian Public Service. I am a Federal public servant in Canada and, here the usual chronology is that the woman takes her maternal leave and then the man (if both are in the Public service) does his share. Thus the child gets the advantage of having time with both parents. It generally does not have an affect on either parents career besides the obvious delay caused by the time away, but that is strictly a logistical issue. If promotions are usually at the three year point for your work designation and you take 7 months maternal you end up getting promoted at 3y and 7m.</p>
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		<title>By: Down Under Feminist Carnival: September 08 Edition &#171; blue milk</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-76</link>
		<dc:creator>Down Under Feminist Carnival: September 08 Edition &#171; blue milk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 12:19:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Unearthed wonders where is all the discussion about raising feminist sons. WoLFi TaLEs unpacks the rhetoric of choice used in the reporting of a recent study on women in the public [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Unearthed wonders where is all the discussion about raising feminist sons. WoLFi TaLEs unpacks the rhetoric of choice used in the reporting of a recent study on women in the public [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Ariane</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-58</link>
		<dc:creator>Ariane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think it probably is all about choice, and women have more of it. The incongruity comes with our usual assumption that choice is unmitigated good. Men don&#039;t have much choice. If they want to exercise choice, it will be much harder than it is for a woman, but there is indeed a comfort and a protection in a lack of choice. There can be no blame for something you had no choice about it. The older I get, the more I feel the pressure of choice. Go shop at Aldi, it sums it all up. It is much easier and far less stressful to shop at Aldi, but when you come away, you always feel like you&#039;ve missed out on something. And if you had no choice but to shop there, you also wouldn&#039;t feel guilty about feeding your family their godawful tomato sauce. The price of freedom is choice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think it probably is all about choice, and women have more of it. The incongruity comes with our usual assumption that choice is unmitigated good. Men don&#8217;t have much choice. If they want to exercise choice, it will be much harder than it is for a woman, but there is indeed a comfort and a protection in a lack of choice. There can be no blame for something you had no choice about it. The older I get, the more I feel the pressure of choice. Go shop at Aldi, it sums it all up. It is much easier and far less stressful to shop at Aldi, but when you come away, you always feel like you&#8217;ve missed out on something. And if you had no choice but to shop there, you also wouldn&#8217;t feel guilty about feeding your family their godawful tomato sauce. The price of freedom is choice.</p>
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		<title>By: aztec-rose</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-51</link>
		<dc:creator>aztec-rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:24:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>sorry Megan, I meant eloquent!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>sorry Megan, I meant eloquent!</p>
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		<title>By: aztec-rose</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-50</link>
		<dc:creator>aztec-rose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 11:22:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This choice issue really seems to be at the nub of the of work life balance/interconnectivity question. It seems, as Megan so eloguently points out, choice is a gendered issue. But it seems that without &#039;real&#039; or &#039;genuine&#039; choices, reconciling work and family is always going to be difficult for women and men.

I empathise with Nokomis&#039;s comment that it takes a lot of energy to buck the system, especially if you are a tired parent, as most of us are....But I do know some parents out there who are doing their best to challenge the norms...dads who have pushed for part-time work, couples such as Amy and Marc Vachon who practice equally shared parenting, but there are still many who still go with the status quo

To Rachel Cervantes, please feel free to comment on any of the blog titles that resonate with your life...:)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This choice issue really seems to be at the nub of the of work life balance/interconnectivity question. It seems, as Megan so eloguently points out, choice is a gendered issue. But it seems that without &#8216;real&#8217; or &#8216;genuine&#8217; choices, reconciling work and family is always going to be difficult for women and men.</p>
<p>I empathise with Nokomis&#8217;s comment that it takes a lot of energy to buck the system, especially if you are a tired parent, as most of us are&#8230;.But I do know some parents out there who are doing their best to challenge the norms&#8230;dads who have pushed for part-time work, couples such as Amy and Marc Vachon who practice equally shared parenting, but there are still many who still go with the status quo</p>
<p>To Rachel Cervantes, please feel free to comment on any of the blog titles that resonate with your life&#8230;:)</p>
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		<title>By: Nokomis</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-49</link>
		<dc:creator>Nokomis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 06:31:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The comment you quoted infuriates me! Doubly so because &quot;Dazza&quot; is gendered as a male name - so a Man (tm) thinks it isn&#039;t a &quot;big deal&quot; women can&#039;t &quot;have it all&quot;? Has he had to make the &#039;choice&#039; between parenthood and career? Not to mention his implication by laying &quot;the choices&quot; out side by side that motherhood is not something you have to work hard at, and that by default involves no study to be successful in. I&#039;ve found the complete opposite to be true in my short time as a stay at home mother.

I don&#039;t think blame can be wholly apportioned anywhere. The ideologies that support and create a workplace where parents and caretakers aren&#039;t supported or valued as much as independent, single entities is society-wide. I&#039;ve added to it by stepping out to spend time with my child, my partner adds to it by going to work to support our family, when I go back to work in a part-time pink-collar job as I likely will I will be again adding to it. But it feels too hard to try to buck the system. I don&#039;t have the energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The comment you quoted infuriates me! Doubly so because &#8220;Dazza&#8221; is gendered as a male name &#8211; so a Man &#8482; thinks it isn&#8217;t a &#8220;big deal&#8221; women can&#8217;t &#8220;have it all&#8221;? Has he had to make the &#8216;choice&#8217; between parenthood and career? Not to mention his implication by laying &#8220;the choices&#8221; out side by side that motherhood is not something you have to work hard at, and that by default involves no study to be successful in. I&#8217;ve found the complete opposite to be true in my short time as a stay at home mother.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think blame can be wholly apportioned anywhere. The ideologies that support and create a workplace where parents and caretakers aren&#8217;t supported or valued as much as independent, single entities is society-wide. I&#8217;ve added to it by stepping out to spend time with my child, my partner adds to it by going to work to support our family, when I go back to work in a part-time pink-collar job as I likely will I will be again adding to it. But it feels too hard to try to buck the system. I don&#8217;t have the energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
		<link>http://www.worklifeinterconnectivity.com/?p=191&#038;cpage=1#comment-48</link>
		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Aug 2008 03:47:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This choice argument is ridiculous. Certainly, all life is about choices and priorities. But the reality is that women&#039;s choices are more narrow, more regimented and more punished when they don&#039;t conform.

My partner&#039;s friend and his wife just had a daughter. The father is probably more involved than the average father; he prides himself on being involved and doting. But now the baby is ten months old, the mother is preparing to go back to work, part time and working from home. The father has a job that requires him to travel every couple of weeks. And he can say, &quot;I have to travel for my job.&quot; And use other language that makes it seem like he has no choice. He WOULD be devoted to his daughter full time, but his hands are tied, you see.

If his wife were to go back to work full time and take a job that required travel, quite aside from various societal issues that condition her to make that a harder choice in the first place, anybody she talked to about it would never let her forget that it IS a choice. She wouldn&#039;t get away with saying &quot;I have to travel for my job&quot; or &quot;my hands are tied&quot;. Many people would forcibly remind her that she could get another job, or cut her hours or whatever, but that the real issue is just that she&#039;s not making her family a priority.

And yet, now it would seem that in a couple of years, when her career is dead-ended, people will say, &quot;but you chose not to make your career a priority, you chose to have a child and cut your hours.&quot;

So the issue isn&#039;t choice, it isn&#039;t picking priorities, it&#039;s that the damn deck is stacked. Men can have families and they &lt;i&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/i&gt; have to feel torn. If they choose their careers, then they&#039;re excellent career men, dedicated to making a good living for their families. Even though being career oriented doesn&#039;t cost them much peace of mind because their partner has been put in the position where she either takes good care of the children or she pays for it in mother-shaming (so men can more easily trust that it&#039;s all taken care of), they are lauded for tolerating the sacrifice of family time. If they take time off for their families, they are celebrated for being family men, with feminist values.

You simply will not see women being celebrated for making either choice. Nor even for choosing not to have children at all. There is simply no winning.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This choice argument is ridiculous. Certainly, all life is about choices and priorities. But the reality is that women&#8217;s choices are more narrow, more regimented and more punished when they don&#8217;t conform.</p>
<p>My partner&#8217;s friend and his wife just had a daughter. The father is probably more involved than the average father; he prides himself on being involved and doting. But now the baby is ten months old, the mother is preparing to go back to work, part time and working from home. The father has a job that requires him to travel every couple of weeks. And he can say, &#8220;I have to travel for my job.&#8221; And use other language that makes it seem like he has no choice. He WOULD be devoted to his daughter full time, but his hands are tied, you see.</p>
<p>If his wife were to go back to work full time and take a job that required travel, quite aside from various societal issues that condition her to make that a harder choice in the first place, anybody she talked to about it would never let her forget that it IS a choice. She wouldn&#8217;t get away with saying &#8220;I have to travel for my job&#8221; or &#8220;my hands are tied&#8221;. Many people would forcibly remind her that she could get another job, or cut her hours or whatever, but that the real issue is just that she&#8217;s not making her family a priority.</p>
<p>And yet, now it would seem that in a couple of years, when her career is dead-ended, people will say, &#8220;but you chose not to make your career a priority, you chose to have a child and cut your hours.&#8221;</p>
<p>So the issue isn&#8217;t choice, it isn&#8217;t picking priorities, it&#8217;s that the damn deck is stacked. Men can have families and they <i>don&#8217;t</i> have to feel torn. If they choose their careers, then they&#8217;re excellent career men, dedicated to making a good living for their families. Even though being career oriented doesn&#8217;t cost them much peace of mind because their partner has been put in the position where she either takes good care of the children or she pays for it in mother-shaming (so men can more easily trust that it&#8217;s all taken care of), they are lauded for tolerating the sacrifice of family time. If they take time off for their families, they are celebrated for being family men, with feminist values.</p>
<p>You simply will not see women being celebrated for making either choice. Nor even for choosing not to have children at all. There is simply no winning.</p>
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		<title>By: Rachel Cervantes</title>
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		<dc:creator>Rachel Cervantes</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 20 Aug 2008 23:29:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry, this is off topic but I&#039;m in a bit of a rush.  Saw a note on Blue Milk that you need data. Happy to contribute if you&#039;ll tell me precisely what and where (like I said, time crush).

Rachel Cervantes (Bloggername)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry, this is off topic but I&#8217;m in a bit of a rush.  Saw a note on Blue Milk that you need data. Happy to contribute if you&#8217;ll tell me precisely what and where (like I said, time crush).</p>
<p>Rachel Cervantes (Bloggername)</p>
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